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	<title>Comments on: UPyD manifesto</title>
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	<description>anythingarian bubbles and troubles from the land of the fretting nun</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: El Ciruco</title>
		<link>http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2008/02/18/upyd-manifesto/#comment-140963</link>
		<dc:creator>El Ciruco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta admire the singer - managing to wrap her yabber around that mess. And the Casio gaita. Hoy! Hoy! Hoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta admire the singer - managing to wrap her yabber around that mess. And the Casio gaita. Hoy! Hoy! Hoy!</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor ap Simon</title>
		<link>http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2008/02/18/upyd-manifesto/#comment-140960</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor ap Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Omigod that's horrible. Totalitarians have all the best songs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Omigod that&#8217;s horrible. Totalitarians have all the best songs.</p>
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		<title>By: juanito sin miedo</title>
		<link>http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2008/02/18/upyd-manifesto/#comment-140951</link>
		<dc:creator>juanito sin miedo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be nice to translate the complete song. Its amazing!! A new party with progressit new ideas but with the same ridiculous jingle as all the parties

Listen it &lt;a href="http://media.upyd.es/mp3/cuando_hablamos_de_un_pais.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;

only a sample (in bad english, sorry) :

"the artists don't risk money or career to create emotions"

It seems that Rosa loves artists, specially those who have money and careers to risk. The best example :  Boadella, of course. He risks his own life every day at the scenes... he's a hero!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be nice to translate the complete song. Its amazing!! A new party with progressit new ideas but with the same ridiculous jingle as all the parties</p>
<p>Listen it <a href="http://media.upyd.es/mp3/cuando_hablamos_de_un_pais.mp3" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
<p>only a sample (in bad english, sorry) :</p>
<p>&#8220;the artists don&#8217;t risk money or career to create emotions&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems that Rosa loves artists, specially those who have money and careers to risk. The best example :  Boadella, of course. He risks his own life every day at the scenes&#8230; he&#8217;s a hero!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor ap Simon</title>
		<link>http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2008/02/18/upyd-manifesto/#comment-138298</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor ap Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rosa loves ya, babe! Especially if you use non-polluting and/or public transport. Although why anyone would want to go to Brockenhurst by either...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rosa loves ya, babe! Especially if you use non-polluting and/or public transport. Although why anyone would want to go to Brockenhurst by either&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gosia -  "ciudadana CAT" with multiple &#38; changing IDs</title>
		<link>http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2008/02/18/upyd-manifesto/#comment-138295</link>
		<dc:creator>Gosia -  "ciudadana CAT" with multiple &#38; changing IDs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't go by car. It's faster with the 9:30 AM from Waterloo and arriving in Brockenhurst at 10:55.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t go by car. It&#8217;s faster with the 9:30 AM from Waterloo and arriving in Brockenhurst at 10:55.</p>
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		<title>By: Gosia -  "ciudadana CAT" with multiple &#38; changing IDs</title>
		<link>http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2008/02/18/upyd-manifesto/#comment-138294</link>
		<dc:creator>Gosia -  "ciudadana CAT" with multiple &#38; changing IDs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hampshire? I suppose you mean straightforward, non-estuary English, dont' you?. I wouldn't waste my time or skills on that kind of bilge. However, I suppose Rosa Diez would come across like some kind of lesser Roman Dmowski in Polish, what with her deep-seated hatred of non-Spanish minorities. On second thoughts, I'd rather abstain.
 
As you know, Hampshire's a civilised part of the world and ideal for weekends if you're based in London. The New Forest's within a 2 hour drive and very rewarding in every respect. The overall mood in fact is lightyears away from the likes of narrow-minded Spanish nationalist thugs or Orange Order marching bands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hampshire? I suppose you mean straightforward, non-estuary English, dont&#8217; you?. I wouldn&#8217;t waste my time or skills on that kind of bilge. However, I suppose Rosa Diez would come across like some kind of lesser Roman Dmowski in Polish, what with her deep-seated hatred of non-Spanish minorities. On second thoughts, I&#8217;d rather abstain.</p>
<p>As you know, Hampshire&#8217;s a civilised part of the world and ideal for weekends if you&#8217;re based in London. The New Forest&#8217;s within a 2 hour drive and very rewarding in every respect. The overall mood in fact is lightyears away from the likes of narrow-minded Spanish nationalist thugs or Orange Order marching bands.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor ap Simon</title>
		<link>http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2008/02/18/upyd-manifesto/#comment-138286</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor ap Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you translate it into Catalan, I'll take care of the Hampshire version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you translate it into Catalan, I&#8217;ll take care of the Hampshire version.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2008/02/18/upyd-manifesto/#comment-138255</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I'll translate it alright...

You really are taken with this nationalist propaganda, aren't you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#8217;ll translate it alright&#8230;</p>
<p>You really are taken with this nationalist propaganda, aren&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor ap Simon</title>
		<link>http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2008/02/18/upyd-manifesto/#comment-138249</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor ap Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Equalising the rights and obligations with respect to the state of all citizens, irrespective of the region in which they live, whilst maintaining devolved regional and local administrations isn't centralisation.

Q: Given their extraordinarily limited means, do you think that paying for translations of everything into Catalenciano, Basque, Galician, Leonese and whatever would withstand any type of cost/benefit analysis? Particularly given that all voters read Spanish, and the ones who will demand something else probably aren't going to vote for them anyway. A devious nationalist, instead of protesting, would offer to finance all translations out of his own pocket, Mr Clarke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Equalising the rights and obligations with respect to the state of all citizens, irrespective of the region in which they live, whilst maintaining devolved regional and local administrations isn&#8217;t centralisation.</p>
<p>Q: Given their extraordinarily limited means, do you think that paying for translations of everything into Catalenciano, Basque, Galician, Leonese and whatever would withstand any type of cost/benefit analysis? Particularly given that all voters read Spanish, and the ones who will demand something else probably aren&#8217;t going to vote for them anyway. A devious nationalist, instead of protesting, would offer to finance all translations out of his own pocket, Mr Clarke.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2008/02/18/upyd-manifesto/#comment-138226</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wot no Catalan version?

And would you really rather everything was centralised in Madrid? Even the PP don't call for that..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wot no Catalan version?</p>
<p>And would you really rather everything was centralised in Madrid? Even the PP don&#8217;t call for that..</p>
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