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By: kalebeul » Continuity in voodoo needle magic in Barcelona: 1800s Inquisition records and 1900s crime reports

Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:23:07 +0000

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By: Trevor ap Simon

Trevor ap Simon — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:24:35 +0000

The only mentions of violence on your blog concern attacks or alleged attacks on Catalanists: http://www.google.com/search?violence+site%3Atrenator.blogspot.com. I don’t live in Valencia, so attacks there or the much more serious situation on in the Basque Country and increasingly in Galicia don’t impinge a great deal on my daily life. However, not even people in Mislata take Santi Rosado’s story–you included a link in your previous comment–very seriously. The protest demonstration gathered only a few dozen and Santi Rosado refused to talk to the press about the previous incident. The latter is most unfortunate, given the glorious record of ETA and other nationalist-socialists in this country of planning and making undocumented claims of maltreatment at the hands of the wicked Spanish.

By: Rab

Rab — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:57:13 +0000

Trevor,

I am afraid that, once again, you are bending the truth…
Can you point out exactly when I “didn’t condemn physical attacks last year on members of Ciudadanos”?

I condemn the use of violence to enforce political views, whether it is done by violent thugs, politically motivated “terrorists” or the State. You and many others only seem to see politically-motivated violence in some occasions and not others.

My point is that actual acts of violence (physical injuries, not a stupid graffiti) occur everyday in Valencia and they don’t get a fraction of the coverage of the vandalism (graffiti) suffered by Ciudadanos. There seems to be double standards at play by the media, and also the Police when conducting investigations into acts of violence suffered by a specific group of people, ie: Valencian people who want to keep their language and cultural heritage alive when they are attacked by Spanish Nationalists extremists.

By: Trevor ap Simon

Trevor ap Simon — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:13:12 +0000

I condemn physical attacks by one extremist group on another in Valencia just as much as you didn’t condemn physical attacks last year on members of Ciudadanos.

By: Rab

Rab — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:17:13 +0000

Trevor,

It is not the first time that graffiti has appeared near Rivera, and most people smell a rat. These acts of vandalism always seem to be timed rather well…

http://www.racocatala.cat/articles/15735

In any case, while some people get a nasty graffiti, other get beaten up by nationalists using violence and aggression:

http://www.levante-emv.com/secciones/noticia.jsp?pRef=3743_12_379501__COMARCAS-joven-Mislata-recibe-paliza-brutal-tras-amenazada-varios-ultraderechistas
or this one http://www.racocatala.cat/articles/15069

Spanish Nationalist thugs operate with total impunity in Valencia, yet this doesn’t get the media profile that a graffiti in the Rivera’s family business and the Spanish Police, surprise, do nothing about it.

By: Tom Clarke

Tom Clarke — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 13:28:10 +0000

But they’re not opponents of nationalism really, are they? They’re opponents of one kind of nationalism and proponents of another, surely.

I agree though that it’s not nice that their businesses or families are threatened or damaged. I just see it as a bit of a jump to claim that it’s the same as the way the Jewish inhabitants of Germany in the 1930s were treated. It ain’t the same thing.

By: Trevor ap Simon

Trevor ap Simon — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 12:20:18 +0000

I find it difficult to believe you are so poorly informed

I guess what he was trying to say is that it’s not nice when the homes and businesses of opponents of nationalism have target signs and threats and insults painted on them, and when physical attacks are frequent enough to make them a factor to consider before opening one’s mouth.

By: Tom Clarke

Tom Clarke — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 10:53:58 +0000

I love how Rivera has absolutely no qualms about comparing his family to the Jews of 1930’s Germany. So now the Spanish nationalists are trying to co-opt permanent victim status too?

I didn’t realise that the C’s were still going.