Comments on: Black liberals and white virgins http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2006/11/13/black-liberals-and-white-virgins/ anythingarian bubbles and troubles from the land of the fretting nun Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:03:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: gato http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2006/11/13/black-liberals-and-white-virgins/#comment-120525 gato Sun, 13 May 2007 11:49:03 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2006/11/13/black-liberals-and-white-virgins/#comment-120525 Andalusia was comprised of non-whites, and although it forms a substantial part of european history it has thus far been blanked out by establishments that would prefer spain to have been of greco-roman - blank - christian heritage. when the trinitarian armies burnt andalusia to the ground, those who fought back - the unitarians - including jew, muslims and unitarian christian (those who do not believe in the trinity) were slaughtered, extirpated etc The facade of a holy war by the roman catholic church was merely a pretext in which to rape and expropriate the wealth of andalusia...what has generally been seen as the dark ages in europe refers only to western europe - not the iberian pensinsula. Much of Christian Europes knowledge came from the works of the Jews and Muslim in Andalusia which saw a great many refugees flock to the Universities from those lands which suffocated the people by virtue of a Holy Latin language that was not taught to the people for fear that church cum state would lose control of those they considered to be their slave labor - they proclaimed that god created certain men to be the slaves of others, and this had to be divinely backed..the trinity then became a weapon created by men, originally constantine - a pagan from birth till death, who dreamt of the cross behind the sun...and moving quickly to consolidate the new religion within the folds of his empire, declared the trinity to be the word of gof.(with the subsequent implication that man could be a god, and thus solidify that kings and rulers can in fact be of divine origin even in the flesh) The black/moor/negro liberal essence thus stems from the collective memory of those moors who fought for the freedom of a land that had once lived, and lived with courage. The Spanish didn't just bring death and the trinity to the americas and the dutch republic etc but first and most importently, to the base which had to be systematically cleansed, Spain. Andalusia was comprised of non-whites, and although it forms a substantial part of european history it has thus far been blanked out by establishments that would prefer spain to have been of greco-roman - blank - christian heritage. when the trinitarian armies burnt andalusia to the ground, those who fought back - the unitarians - including jew, muslims and unitarian christian (those who do not believe in the trinity) were slaughtered, extirpated etc The facade of a holy war by the roman catholic church was merely a pretext in which to rape and expropriate the wealth of andalusia…what has generally been seen as the dark ages in europe refers only to western europe - not the iberian pensinsula. Much of Christian Europes knowledge came from the works of the Jews and Muslim in Andalusia which saw a great many refugees flock to the Universities from those lands which suffocated the people by virtue of a Holy Latin language that was not taught to the people for fear that church cum state would lose control of those they considered to be their slave labor - they proclaimed that god created certain men to be the slaves of others, and this had to be divinely backed..the trinity then became a weapon created by men, originally constantine - a pagan from birth till death, who dreamt of the cross behind the sun…and moving quickly to consolidate the new religion within the folds of his empire, declared the trinity to be the word of gof.(with the subsequent implication that man could be a god, and thus solidify that kings and rulers can in fact be of divine origin even in the flesh)

The black/moor/negro liberal essence thus stems from the collective memory of those moors who fought for the freedom of a land that had once lived, and lived with courage.

The Spanish didn’t just bring death and the trinity to the americas and the dutch republic etc but first and most importently, to the base which had to be systematically cleansed, Spain.

]]> By: Trevor ap Simon http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2006/11/13/black-liberals-and-white-virgins/#comment-93048 Trevor ap Simon Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:16:25 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2006/11/13/black-liberals-and-white-virgins/#comment-93048 He will be back in a week, it says since July 28 2006. Maybe you should investigate. He will be back in a week, it says since July 28 2006. Maybe you should investigate.

]]> By: Javier http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2006/11/13/black-liberals-and-white-virgins/#comment-93047 Javier Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:01:18 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2006/11/13/black-liberals-and-white-virgins/#comment-93047 Well, we are different, but some guesswork is still possible.. Black should be honored among traditionalists, as cassocks are black, so there must be some explanation for these anomaly. Perhaps black soldiers in regular army ( the stronghold of liberals), that were brought to Spain after the defeat in American colonies? Your theory sounds good too. I see some racial issue involved. I really miss Larry Kovaks . Well, we are different, but some guesswork is still possible..

Black should be honored among traditionalists, as cassocks are black, so there must be some explanation for these anomaly.

Perhaps black soldiers in regular army ( the stronghold of liberals), that were brought to Spain after the defeat in American colonies?

Your theory sounds good too. I see some racial issue involved.

I really miss Larry Kovaks .

]]> By: Trevor ap Simon http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2006/11/13/black-liberals-and-white-virgins/#comment-93011 Trevor ap Simon Thu, 23 Nov 2006 12:14:55 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2006/11/13/black-liberals-and-white-virgins/#comment-93011 Why does Spain have to be so different? Even in Iran they know that black means conservative and probably clerical Why does Spain have to be so different? Even in Iran they know that black means conservative and probably clerical

]]> By: Javier http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2006/11/13/black-liberals-and-white-virgins/#comment-92842 Javier Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:18:40 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2006/11/13/black-liberals-and-white-virgins/#comment-92842 Try Google with "Mueran los negros" and "liberales" and you will find that that negros = liberales was commonplace in the final years of the rule of Fernando VII. Try Google with “Mueran los negros” and “liberales” and you will find that that negros = liberales was commonplace in the final years of the rule of Fernando VII.

]]> By: looby http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2006/11/13/black-liberals-and-white-virgins/#comment-91805 looby Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:57:17 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2006/11/13/black-liberals-and-white-virgins/#comment-91805 Fascinating. That's a very interesting piece of detective work about the derivation of negro as meaning liberal. Fascinating. That’s a very interesting piece of detective work about the derivation of negro as meaning liberal.

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