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	<title>Comments on: El Barça, Franco&#8217;s favourite team?</title>
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	<description>anythingarian rambles from the land of the fretting nun</description>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2005/01/02/el-barca-francos-favourite-team/comment-page-1/#comment-199439</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, damn, damn, we really need to get beyond this unsubstantiated claims shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, damn, damn, we really need to get beyond this unsubstantiated claims shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2005/01/02/el-barca-francos-favourite-team/comment-page-1/#comment-199437</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The incidents in the second leg of the 1943 Cup game were denied by some of the Barcelona players. Also there are many contradictions in the different versions of this story coming from the blaugrana side. Truth is not interesting, only that a myth gets propagated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The incidents in the second leg of the 1943 Cup game were denied by some of the Barcelona players. Also there are many contradictions in the different versions of this story coming from the blaugrana side. Truth is not interesting, only that a myth gets propagated.</p>
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		<title>By: kalkin</title>
		<link>http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2005/01/02/el-barca-francos-favourite-team/comment-page-1/#comment-181596</link>
		<dc:creator>kalkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Xtian is a holocaust denier and also apparently a complete and utter moron so I wouldn&#039;t take anything he says very seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Xtian is a holocaust denier and also apparently a complete and utter moron so I wouldn&#8217;t take anything he says very seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2005/01/02/el-barca-francos-favourite-team/comment-page-1/#comment-177143</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funny thing about the Spanish Civil War is that history has mostly been written by those who identify with the losers. Some of it&#039;s very good, but a lot of it is very bad. Jimmy Burns, Gary Lineker et al fall into the latter category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing about the Spanish Civil War is that history has mostly been written by those who identify with the losers. Some of it&#8217;s very good, but a lot of it is very bad. Jimmy Burns, Gary Lineker et al fall into the latter category.</p>
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		<title>By: Xtian</title>
		<link>http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2005/01/02/el-barca-francos-favourite-team/comment-page-1/#comment-177097</link>
		<dc:creator>Xtian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Long before camcorders people used to write documents and books, and they too can be used as evidence. That’s how history gets written&quot;

just to add to this.. sadly the history has been always been written by the wineers and manipulated by them, and most of the times they use to destroy their oponents prooves and writtten documents, so yes.. as i said.. as per written.. Franco was indeed a good guy.. no?  also Hitler was?? there were not written document signed by him that he order the Jews massacre, nothing ,all what  they had was  burned before they got cought and only from interviews later from people who lived that date they could actually see what really happened.. that is the story that gets written.. if you believe in that then you also probably believe that there were mass destruction weapons in Irak.. congratulations..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Long before camcorders people used to write documents and books, and they too can be used as evidence. That’s how history gets written&#8221;</p>
<p>just to add to this.. sadly the history has been always been written by the wineers and manipulated by them, and most of the times they use to destroy their oponents prooves and writtten documents, so yes.. as i said.. as per written.. Franco was indeed a good guy.. no?  also Hitler was?? there were not written document signed by him that he order the Jews massacre, nothing ,all what  they had was  burned before they got cought and only from interviews later from people who lived that date they could actually see what really happened.. that is the story that gets written.. if you believe in that then you also probably believe that there were mass destruction weapons in Irak.. congratulations..</p>
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		<title>By: Xtian</title>
		<link>http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2005/01/02/el-barca-francos-favourite-team/comment-page-1/#comment-177095</link>
		<dc:creator>Xtian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My evidence from football results suggests that FC Barça was not affected adversely by the Franco regime.&quot;

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

almost felt of my chair.. nooo absolutely not.. General Moscardo was a really good guy actually and franco spoke also catalan in the intimity! 

keep on seen Anti-Barcelona.com and you may also realse that they all lie to us.. Franco was not a Dictator. he was actually a Missunderstood democrat who basically went town to town advising his propaganda of new goberment. and it was soo good that the oponents did decide to make a colective suicide becuase they knew they will never be able to win..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My evidence from football results suggests that FC Barça was not affected adversely by the Franco regime.&#8221;</p>
<p>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH</p>
<p>almost felt of my chair.. nooo absolutely not.. General Moscardo was a really good guy actually and franco spoke also catalan in the intimity! </p>
<p>keep on seen Anti-Barcelona.com and you may also realse that they all lie to us.. Franco was not a Dictator. he was actually a Missunderstood democrat who basically went town to town advising his propaganda of new goberment. and it was soo good that the oponents did decide to make a colective suicide becuase they knew they will never be able to win..</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 11:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evidence doesn&#039;t have to be on video. Long before camcorders people used to write documents and books, and they too can be used as evidence. That&#039;s how history gets written. You say you were there (where? did you kill Suñol?!), and if you had something to say then that too might be satisfactory evidence. My evidence from football results suggests that FC Barça was not affected adversely by the Franco regime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evidence doesn&#8217;t have to be on video. Long before camcorders people used to write documents and books, and they too can be used as evidence. That&#8217;s how history gets written. You say you were there (where? did you kill Suñol?!), and if you had something to say then that too might be satisfactory evidence. My evidence from football results suggests that FC Barça was not affected adversely by the Franco regime.</p>
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		<title>By: lluis</title>
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		<dc:creator>lluis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok Trevor. 
Just keep on asking for &quot;evidence&quot;. What is it that you want really? Images recorded with a camcorder? I&#039;m sorry I don&#039;t have that. However were YOU there when it happend? I was. You probably were not. My uncle was jailed (and serioulsy abused there) for speaking his mind in his own language. The language he, just like some other millions of people, allways spoke since he was born. I&#039;ve seen things that go behind your imagination. And that&#039;s exactly what I find so very sad about your article. You have absolutly no idea about what happend in Catalunya during the dictatorship, yet you are referring to it as &quot;half-truths&quot; and posting about it on the internet like it is all just a fairy tale made up by some people just to make a football club look bad. 
You know, I once had a hefty discussion with someone neglecting the holocaust. Just like you he kept asking me for &quot;evidence&quot;. I couldn&#039;t give him any, since I wasn&#039;t born back then, and I didn&#039;t have my camcorder with me when it happend... 
Why did I even bother. I&#039;m not going to wast any more time trying to talk to someone wearing all-white-tainted glasses who doesn&#039;t have a clue what he is talking about. I just hope I don&#039;t come against any insulting slash crap articles like this any more.
Have a nice life living in denial as a Madridista. Or not. Whatever... Trevor...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Trevor.<br />
Just keep on asking for &#8220;evidence&#8221;. What is it that you want really? Images recorded with a camcorder? I&#8217;m sorry I don&#8217;t have that. However were YOU there when it happend? I was. You probably were not. My uncle was jailed (and serioulsy abused there) for speaking his mind in his own language. The language he, just like some other millions of people, allways spoke since he was born. I&#8217;ve seen things that go behind your imagination. And that&#8217;s exactly what I find so very sad about your article. You have absolutly no idea about what happend in Catalunya during the dictatorship, yet you are referring to it as &#8220;half-truths&#8221; and posting about it on the internet like it is all just a fairy tale made up by some people just to make a football club look bad.<br />
You know, I once had a hefty discussion with someone neglecting the holocaust. Just like you he kept asking me for &#8220;evidence&#8221;. I couldn&#8217;t give him any, since I wasn&#8217;t born back then, and I didn&#8217;t have my camcorder with me when it happend&#8230;<br />
Why did I even bother. I&#8217;m not going to wast any more time trying to talk to someone wearing all-white-tainted glasses who doesn&#8217;t have a clue what he is talking about. I just hope I don&#8217;t come against any insulting slash crap articles like this any more.<br />
Have a nice life living in denial as a Madridista. Or not. Whatever&#8230; Trevor&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Xtian</title>
		<link>http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2005/01/02/el-barca-francos-favourite-team/comment-page-1/#comment-176970</link>
		<dc:creator>Xtian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 21:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trevor.. i just say that if franco hasnt begin this stupid war.. Sunye would have never been in any wrong place at any wrong time.. 

i can only say.. WHATEVER!! if this Anti-barcelona is where you take your information, and you with stated reservations thinks that is true, or more closer to the empirical Truth..that make sense taht you think that RMadrid was always clean and that Franco was a good nice guy.. congrat..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trevor.. i just say that if franco hasnt begin this stupid war.. Sunye would have never been in any wrong place at any wrong time.. </p>
<p>i can only say.. WHATEVER!! if this Anti-barcelona is where you take your information, and you with stated reservations thinks that is true, or more closer to the empirical Truth..that make sense taht you think that RMadrid was always clean and that Franco was a good nice guy.. congrat..</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Xtian: Suñol seems to have been killed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time with a republican flag or something of that nature. I don&#039;t think there is any evidence that anyone knew who he was, let alone that he was killed because of his relationship with Barça. That doesn&#039;t mean that I approve of killing people who carry flags, although the thought has occurred to me. If you&#039;ve got anything coherent to say with evidence to back it up, then I&#039;ll happily reply.

@Lluis: I quote Anti-Barcelona.com with clearly stated reservations, but point out that the version of history favoured by that particular drop-in group for the paranoid demented is actually closer to the empirical truth than the Balkan-style saga apparently chanted in the FC Barça Hystorical Loony Bin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Xtian: Suñol seems to have been killed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time with a republican flag or something of that nature. I don&#8217;t think there is any evidence that anyone knew who he was, let alone that he was killed because of his relationship with Barça. That doesn&#8217;t mean that I approve of killing people who carry flags, although the thought has occurred to me. If you&#8217;ve got anything coherent to say with evidence to back it up, then I&#8217;ll happily reply.</p>
<p>@Lluis: I quote Anti-Barcelona.com with clearly stated reservations, but point out that the version of history favoured by that particular drop-in group for the paranoid demented is actually closer to the empirical truth than the Balkan-style saga apparently chanted in the FC Barça Hystorical Loony Bin.</p>
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