Comments on: Pirates and Kleinecke’s etymology of “pidgin”

By: kalebeul » Mosquitoes, alcohol and violence

kalebeul » Mosquitoes, alcohol and violence — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:20:16 +0000

[...] to have confirmation that the Indians were authors as well as the victims of orgiastic fervour. My other source says that they were already whooping it up in the fleshpots of Algiers in the 16th century: There [...]

By: kalebeul » Borderline nonsense language in Cádiz carnival

kalebeul » Borderline nonsense language in Cádiz carnival — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:54:23 +0000

[...] babucheros, The be-babouched (be-slippered) Moors. Apparently Moorish is a very simple language, a pechelingue so simple that the entire population spoke it in 1891–except, perhaps, the transcriber of [...]

By: El Ciruco

El Ciruco — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:57:09 +0000

‘Pichinglis’ is how you say ’speak English’ after you’ve drunk too much chaparán.

Me go now.

By: kalebeul » Misdeed and identity in the Indian Ocean

kalebeul » Misdeed and identity in the Indian Ocean — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:20:20 +0000

[...] how many of the Barbary pirates were born English, or Welsh, or whatever, which reminds me of this post on the etymology of pidgin, which I never followed up, which offence I may remedy as soon as the Chinese leave me in [...]

By: Trevor ap Simon

Trevor ap Simon — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 19:33:20 +0000

Are you sure about that? I can’t see the date.

(António de Morais Silva, Diccionario da lingua portugueza (1789) has pechelingue = cossario, ladráo, corruto de Flessingue, porto donde sahiáo corsarios)

By: LangGuy

LangGuy — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 19:15:11 +0000

The Gentleman's Magazine has "pigeon English" in 1790, 36 years before the OED's first instance.

By: D

Sat, 22 Jul 2006 19:24:08 +0000

When I was growing up in Barcelona in the 1970’s my grandmother would say to me “Vamos a hacer inglis pitinglis” and we would talk nonsense. I don’t think people say this anymore.

By: kalebeul » Filibusters and boats on the Vlie

kalebeul » Filibusters and boats on the Vlie — Wed, 08 Jun 2005 20:27:29 +0000

[...]
How do we know that Bush–for all his rhetoric–is soft on pirates? Because otherwise, surely, Bill Frist would have rebi [...]

By: Carlos

Carlos — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:57:51 +0000

Another idea: old French/Provençal pichier leads to quite old Spanish picher/pichel (same as your pitcher), pichel + lingue is someone who drinks a lot, e.g. a pirate

By: Kimo

Kimo — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:01:28 +0000

Google also says:

Inter-American Notes – The Americas 59:2 – [ Traduzca esta página ]
… “The Word Pechelingue: its Derivation and Meaning,” HAHR, 24 (1944), pp.
683-698. “Francisco López de Caravanes’ Historical Sketch of Fiscal …
muse.jhu.edu/journals/the_americas/v059/59.2notes.html

Unfortunately it’s subscription access. Can anyone get it for him?