Comments on: Cock and bull http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/ anythingarian bubbles and troubles from the land of the fretting nun Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:10:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Joan http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-417 Joan Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-417 Why do you care about preserving Osborne's bulls in Catalunya? That's hillarious... So UE makes a law prohibiting the use of advertising in roads, but makes an exception with the Osborne bull (Alcoholic drink) because it's become a cultural symbol of Spain. Well, we are not Spanish in Catalonia. We hate the bullfighting. And in no way we want to be related with this bloody activity. Is it so hard to understand? We'll the destroy the goddamn Bull advertising anytime. You want to see bulls? Go to Madrid... Why do you care about preserving Osborne’s bulls in Catalunya? That’s hillarious… So UE makes a law prohibiting the use of advertising in roads, but makes an exception with the Osborne bull (Alcoholic drink) because it’s become a cultural symbol of Spain. Well, we are not Spanish in Catalonia. We hate the bullfighting. And in no way we want to be related with this bloody activity. Is it so hard to understand? We’ll the destroy the goddamn Bull advertising anytime.

You want to see bulls? Go to Madrid…

]]> By: pj http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-418 pj Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-418 Em sona que el van tornar a aixecar :-o Em sona que el van tornar a aixecar :-o

]]> By: Pep http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-419 Pep Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-419 Joan, in iberian notes weblog you seemed to show more respect and good manners. Now I think that you're just trolling. Joan, in iberian notes weblog you seemed to show more respect and good manners. Now I think that you’re just trolling.

]]> By: Joan http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-420 Joan Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-420 Pep, I'm not a troll. These are my thoughts exactly. I go abroad and people ask me if I bullfight, dance flamenco and shit like that. I'm tired of that ignorance. We have to make sure that they know there is a place called Catalonia and we have Sardanas, not flamenco. Castellers and not bullfights. Anyway you should change your name to PEPE or even better... JOSÉ. It suits you more. Pep,

I’m not a troll. These are my thoughts exactly. I go abroad and people ask me if I bullfight, dance flamenco and shit like that. I’m tired of that ignorance. We have to make sure that they know there is a place called Catalonia and we have Sardanas, not flamenco. Castellers and not bullfights.

Anyway you should change your name to PEPE or even better… JOSÉ. It suits you more.

]]> By: Trevor http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-421 Trevor Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-421 So why not destroy cockerels as well? Think of all the terrible things the French do to your comrades in Roussillon. So why not destroy cockerels as well? Think of all the terrible things the French do to your comrades in Roussillon.

]]> By: joan http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-422 joan Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-422 Trevor, I have commented the catalan translation of the dutch text. It made me realise how difficult is to master a foreign language. http://oreneta.com/baldie/blog/archives/000046.asp Trevor,

I have commented the catalan translation of the dutch text. It made me realise how difficult is to master a foreign language.

http://oreneta.com/baldie/blog/archives/000046.asp

]]> By: Trevor http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-423 Trevor Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-423 ... as if you didn't know already. … as if you didn’t know already.

]]> By: Reiner http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-424 Reiner Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-424 The advantage of bulls is that it is very difficult to teach them bad things, unlike <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3463517.stm">dogs</a>. The advantage of bulls is that it is very difficult to teach them bad things, unlike dogs.

]]> By: martin http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-425 martin Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-425 "We have to make sure that they know there is a place called Catalonia and we have Sardanas...". Joan, some things are best kept under your hat. “We have to make sure that they know there is a place called Catalonia and we have Sardanas…”.

Joan, some things are best kept under your hat.

]]> By: Trevor http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-426 Trevor Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-426 <a href="/baldie/blog/archives/000802.asp">Too late, people.</a> Too late, people.

]]> By: joan http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-427 joan Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-427 Trevor, "I am left with the impression that the Francoist state actually encouraged the sardana as an acceptable form of bourgeois regionalism of the type espoused by conservatives like Josep Pla. Additionally, my evidence suggests that the sardana suffered its greatest problems during the period of revolutionary anarcho-syndicalist and Stalinist control (1936-9)." This is pretty funny. You could be a comedian or something. Sardanas were not allowed during the Franco dictatorship. As you should know, the first years of Franco's regime were the toughest... but as it was becoming very clear that the fascist would lose WWII, the regime had to become more "moderate" so they allowed Sardanas and other Catalan folklore they also stop obliguing people do the facist salude in cinemas, theathers..., but still songs like "Santa Espina" were not allowed to sing until the early 50's. This is my grandfather and my father words, but of course you as a foreign visitor and a Franco fan as yourself should know more about it. This is one dedicated to you. It was not during Franco's time, but that's good enough, so you get the idea about what it means historically to be Catalan: ¿Como se llama Vd. ? -Antoni Gaudí . ¿Que edad tiene? -Setenta-un anys . ¿Que profesión? -Arquitecte . Pues su profesión le obliga a Vd. a hablar en castellano . -La professió d'arquitecte m'obliga a pagar contribució i ja la pago , però no a deixar de parlar la meva llengua. ¿Cómo se llamaba su padre? -Francesc Gaudí . ¿Que es esto de Francesc? Si Vd. no fuese viejo , le rompería la cara , ¡ sinverguenza , cochino ! -Jo a vosté no l'insulto i vosté a mi sí . Jo parlo la meva llengua [...] Gaudí detingut per parlar català , 1924 Trevor,

“I am left with the impression that the Francoist state actually encouraged the sardana as an acceptable form of bourgeois regionalism of the type espoused by conservatives like Josep Pla. Additionally, my evidence suggests that the sardana suffered its greatest problems during the period of revolutionary anarcho-syndicalist and Stalinist control (1936-9).”

This is pretty funny. You could be a comedian or something. Sardanas were not allowed during the Franco dictatorship. As you should know, the first years of Franco’s regime were the toughest… but as it was becoming very clear that the fascist would lose WWII, the regime had to become more “moderate” so they allowed Sardanas and other Catalan folklore they also stop obliguing people do the facist salude in cinemas, theathers…, but still songs like “Santa Espina” were not allowed to sing until the early 50’s. This is my grandfather and my father words, but of course you as a foreign visitor and a Franco fan as yourself should know more about it.

This is one dedicated to you. It was not during Franco’s time, but that’s good enough, so you get the idea about what it means historically to be Catalan:

¿Como se llama Vd. ?
-Antoni Gaudí .
¿Que edad tiene?
-Setenta-un anys .
¿Que profesión?
-Arquitecte .
Pues su profesión le obliga a Vd. a hablar en castellano .
-La professió d’arquitecte m’obliga a pagar contribució i ja la pago , però no a deixar de parlar la meva llengua.
¿Cómo se llamaba su padre?
-Francesc Gaudí .
¿Que es esto de Francesc? Si Vd. no fuese viejo , le rompería la cara , ¡ sinverguenza , cochino !
-Jo a vosté no l’insulto i vosté a mi sí . Jo parlo la meva llengua [...]
Gaudí detingut per parlar català , 1924

]]> By: Geoff http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-428 Geoff Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-428 If you won't accept factual evidence, what will convince you that you're wrong about the sardana? If you won’t accept factual evidence, what will convince you that you’re wrong about the sardana?

]]> By: Trevor http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-429 Trevor Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-429 Joan, you're trolling. If you want to discuss the evidence - which is that sardanas manifestly were allowed by Franco, right from the start - then do so. Otherwise go somewhere else and start your own blog. Joan, you’re trolling. If you want to discuss the evidence - which is that sardanas manifestly were allowed by Franco, right from the start - then do so. Otherwise go somewhere else and start your own blog.

]]> By: BIG SANDY http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-430 BIG SANDY Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-430 IT IS WHOLLY FITTING FOR ALL THESE THINGS TO BE FULFILLED ACCORDING TO THE INVIOLABLE SENTENCE OF THE KING AND HIS IMPERIUM. IT IS WHOLLY FITTING FOR ALL THESE THINGS TO BE FULFILLED ACCORDING TO THE INVIOLABLE SENTENCE OF THE KING AND HIS IMPERIUM.

]]> By: Trevor http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-431 Trevor Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://oreneta.com/kalebeul/2004/02/05/cock-and-bull/#comment-431 Wotchit, Sandy. I know how to write a rule to fix your case problem, but I think you'll be a much happier and more rounded person if you fish all that gunk out of your keyboard. Wotchit, Sandy. I know how to write a rule to fix your case problem, but I think you’ll be a much happier and more rounded person if you fish all that gunk out of your keyboard.

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